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August 5, 2023

OAK PERFORMANCE RADIO: Episode 104: Reggie Vantrease, Owner of The Complete Athlete.

Reggie Vantrease, Owner of THE COMPLETE ATHLETE, has an impressive 13-year background in sports performance, and shares his valuable insights in this hour-plus-long conversation with Adam. They discuss the show's goals and delve into the world of sports performance. Reggie's expertise shines through from working with various athletes, including youth, pro, high school, college, and volleyball players.


Tune in to gain insights from their extensive experience in the field.

3:54 What kind of athletes he works with

7:25 Winning chips

14:10 Adding elements to the box jump to make it look more athletic.

17:36 The importance of limiting the jump.

20:53 The goal with the approach touch is to make it easy for the high jumpers to place.

27:31 What is speed, and why is it important?

39:59 The importance of endurance

43:22 The endurance aspect of sledding

46:34 Overuse injuries and specialization

54:52 What would you have wished that you’d asked your coach?


Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to another episode of Oak Performance Radio. I'm your host, Adam Lane with me today from greater Chicago land, coach Reggie Bantries. What can you say? From the complete athlete. Ooh, look at that baby. Look at that. You wore the shirt. You got everything going for you. I'm so, I'm, oh, I am so logoed out. Look at this brand on point. Absolutely. Brand on point. Reggie, I appreciate you making the trip. Yes. Through the easy Chicago land.

gotta love it. And on top of it, as most of you know, all is pure. I won't know. It's pure. Yeah, it comes down to the traveling right now because there's so much construction on 294. Yes. Some of you also know like how 90 now 90s getting tore up as well by 290 all that type of stuff. But hey, you know what? It's worth it. It's gonna do it to come out here. We're gonna be to be on Oak Performance Radio.

in Rockford, IL. Wait a second. Is that the actual town or is it called Love Oaks? It's Love Park. Love Park. Love's Park. Love's Park. I don't even know where we are. Love's Park is the actual city village we're in. Gotcha. You know, a suburb of Rockford, if you will. Yes. So yeah, we're in but it's like a stone's throw to Rockford there. So yeah, it's you know, Love's Park is a little cleaner, a little classier. Looks nice. I saw some good burger joints on the way here. I was like, We got that.

Burger-oo. Yeah, beef-a-roo. Beef-a-roo. Yeah. Look at that plug, beef-a-roo. That's a thing right there. That's like a Rockford thing. OK. There's, I think, six in the greater Rockford area. And the guy, I think they sold off the franchise a couple years ago. But they're starting to put them everywhere. There's one in Indianapolis now, and there's one opening up in Kansas City. And I know. They're going big time. Look at this. Going big time. It's basically just a different spin on.

and Culver's with cheese fries. They have cheese fries. So yeah, that's gonna get them. Yeah. The cheese fries go to the kitchen. This is a it's I don't know if it's actual cheese, but it looks orange and that's a safe bet to might not be the healthiest thing. Yeah, I probably pass post workout, maybe post workout. And I'll keep with the burger if you need a gut bomb. So Reggie for the tens of people that listen to the show who might not know you and who you are and why you're such a big deal.


educate, educate the people on why you're such a big deal and who we are what you do. Sure. So I'm Reggie Van Trees. Hello, everybody. TCA performance, the complete athlete. I have been in the business now for 13 years. Yeah, actually, officially. That's impressive. 13 years. Nicely done. Well, as you know, with regards to sports performance, turnover is high. Yeah, just two, three years maybe. So being in the game for anything more than five, I'm already like, okay, yeah, you got my props for that. You're hanging in. Yeah, it's not easy.

Absolutely not. So I, uh, I'm a strength and conditioning coach. I have, like I said, I work with what all types of athletes anywhere between 15 different sports. I've worked with over the years, 2000 plus athletes. I work from youth to pro. I definitely do more with probably high school and college more than anything. And I have all of a sudden, like I have a lane where I work a lot with volleyball, which I know do I look like a volleyball player? I would say yes, because

Yes. Yeah. Look at that platform. Look at that platform. It's hard to teach that right there. Like, it's natural. It's all natural. Just athletes being athletes. It really is. But no, but so I do work with a lot with volleyball athletes. I happen to work quite a bit with First Alliance. Shout out First Alliance, and all the athletes over there. So and then also with Chicago Elite as well. Okay, my main one is First Alliance I work with. Gotcha. So how did how did that come to be? You know what, so I okay.

Okay, it's kind of a nice story here. So there was a young lady There are two young ladies that I worked with page pickering and Maddie Salas, which by the way shall at least yes, so they better be listening. I'm gonna put this Instantly, I'm like you two are getting a big shout out, but it honestly spurred off everything. It was during corona with like When everybody was more or less training at the houses and stuff like that Their parents were like, hey, we need somebody to work with kids

Next thing you know, they're like, who does work blah, blah. And they like, well, they found from another parent, like, Hey, Reggie does stuff and right now he's actually going to people's houses. Oh yeah. Honestly, that's what I'm not getting. That is kind of the catalyst to everything that has happened over the last three years. I saw literally I did there. I was doing their testing. We tested based off. I didn't have like a, I didn't have slap sticks. I literally was like, okay, here's a basketball room. Okay. Here, I'm going to film it.


let's see how it looks. Like, I was like, we're gonna have to do that. I had my own equipment, I had it in my car. I would use all my stuff off of that. And then off of that, then next thing you know, those two started getting better. And all of a sudden, then high school coach at Montini Catholic, she was like, well, if these two are getting this much better, why don't we just bring them in on the strength and conditioning side? So then I started working there with the volleyball.

team and that team won state that year. Okay. Yeah, so that was, Yeah, that was cool. There you go. So, my team has got some good sports. Yeah. Football is their main one. They're good at wrestling. Yeah. They have a pretty daggone good men's and women's soccer team. But yeah, volleyball. And like I said, there was that like little window, probably like a three year window where they've been really good. Yeah. And the year I went there, we started doing work. And then, you know, they want to say championship.

was awesome. Yeah, got to see that. That was really cool. And then that turned into for First Alliance, the her First Alliance directors granddaughter plays on that team. Ah, so next thing you know, she was like, Hey, clearly something's working. Yeah. So would you like to potentially work with some of the girls at First Alliance? I said, Yeah, why not? Yeah. And so that has turned into where it's at now where I work with

Oh man, work with 12 different teams. I also have some like, like workshop pieces out of there. And then they've, they've done pretty daggone good. Yeah. I'm not gonna brag but winning chips. Yeah. And, you know, so that was last year. And then this year, got quite a few teams that are going to be playing at USAV in Chicago, which is so dope. Like, I'm like, well, it's so much better to go into Indy. I mean, I like Indy. Yeah, don't get me wrong. Actually, Indy's on

a very underrated city. It is. It's a cool venue. Yes. And on top of it, like, the eating around there and all this, I was like, this ain't bad. Yeah. But it's also better. We're in Chicago. So it's going to be at McCormick Place. OK, gotcha. Oh, geez. Literally. It's a lot of courts. And then on top of it, NASCAR is going to be in same week. Oh, gosh. Yeah, so I think it's like 14s and 15s. They'll play. And NASCAR is in that weekend. And it is going to be a mess. I will.


probably not be going. Where's NASCAR? They're doing the street, the street race. So they're literally racing on Lake Shore Drive and like Balboa and all that stuff. You ain't going to catch me there. Heck no. I'm no, I will be as far away from the city. I'll probably be able to hear today. But yeah, so they're going to have the turn. So they're having literally NASCAR weekend on top of this tournament. Yeah. And then you got the, and then right into that, it's 4th of July. Then right into that is the.

the Nationals for 1617s. Yeah. It's gonna be a mess. I can't wait. I can't wait to literally divvy bike my way there. So it'll probably save you time just walking. I will just walk there. I mean, here's what I'm gonna do. I'm literally going to bring my car, park at 31st Street Beach, I have my bike. I'm gonna then ride to McCormick Place. There's no shot. I'm not also paying $50 for parking. Yeah. How long on a drive? Or how long on a bike?

Probably about a mile and a half. Oh, that's fine. That's easy. I'll get there in 10 minutes. You could sprint that. Technically, if I wanted to. But for me, like I said, it'll just be, it's just an easier way. Yeah. So that part's going to be cool. But I can't wait. I'm really excited. I'm look, I'm a I'm a pretty confident dude, but I'm very confident in how well these girls are going to do. Yeah, they're going to they're going to kick ass. It's going to be awesome. Very cool. I can't wait. Very cool. What?

So in training these valuable kids, because obviously we train a lot of valuable kids, every sport I'm gonna say is unique in, you know, their requirements, what you need to be able to do and which to excel, and they're all a little bit different. We share a lot of the same philosophies with a lot of this. Where, this music got really loud in a hurry right here.

careless whisper. Yeah, I was really getting after it there. The rock version. Yes. What do you see, what's the low hanging fruit for most of these volleyball kids? What are they missing? And then what do you provide them to allow them to, again, win chips here? Well, and I will say like when it comes to volleyball, the one thing on that is when it comes to testing, I think everybody puts so much into approach. Yeah. And I'm like,


cool, that's a part, but I would rather see them move. I want kids to see when they jump. That's a big one. And cool, you can hit 10, two, 10, three, but if you can only do that once and then everything else is nine, eight, or like, then to me, I'm like, cool, so you got fluke type work. I'm looking for consistently being able to do that over and over and over. And I think for me,

whenever I work with the girls, for one of the things, first things we go for, I want to see what they do laterally. Cause I say, that's actually one of the first things I, that's the first thing I work on. Because I don't see a lot of good lateral movement. And I'm like, if I can get you to go forward and back, I can get you to jump. But if you can't go left and right well at all, or there's no power when you do it, exactly. And so we'll work on that. I'll actually be like one of, literally it's the first thing I go through.

when we go through the programming is like, okay, we're gonna work on being able to move laterally. Can you push off your inside foot? Can you push off your outside foot? Can you do that in two steps? Can you turn and go? You know, things of that nature, especially like for those who play on the net. Yeah, I mean, obviously, you know, it's a lot of it is being able to, how much power can you muster in two steps? Yeah, a lot can't do that. Yeah, so now it's like, okay, let's go ahead and talk about like, let's fix some technique stuff.

How are you doing with your arms? What are you doing with your arms? Are you even using your arms to get up? Are you, what's going on with like, seriously? Like, and then on top of it, it's like, okay, cool. Oftentimes I do think like when it comes to that, like when you're jumping as a whole, you only are probably getting to barely athletic stance. Yeah. So because of that, like, okay, well, let's see, can you even jump from there? Or you're never gonna be in a full squat. You're never going.

butt to grass when you're squatting. It's just not gonna happen. I'm sorry, when you're playing volleyball, it's not gonna happen. So why don't we work in those planes and those ranges of motion and stuff like that. Now, granted, there is, of course, there's use for it, but I also do think like, let's also work in a lot of stuff that you're going to be doing. Yeah. But yes, I think lateral movement's a huge one. Yeah, I love the frontal plane stuff. Just in looking back over the program that we've had for the kids, we've...


not that we've made mistakes with it, but you just you get that groove you're like, oh man, this is going okay. But you know, I always want to tweak things like we're never going to roll out the same thing like year after year. And this year was a big thing for frontal plane movement and getting more with that like, Cossack lunge, you know, lateral lunge type thing going on. Because I think that's a big thing. I also think it helps build the knees. I mean, you work so


And then they're doing the same thing in their PE weightlifting class. You know, and some kids live far away and then they, you know, they have trainers, you know, hour and 15 minutes away and they're doing the same thing, you know, they're doing a bunch of the sagittal plane power lifting stuff. And so now they come to us and it's like, we can't keep doing the same stuff. We have to adapt what that ends up being. And I think that's huge because that's one of the things I do see a lot where like sometimes what will happen is...

kids will be working with other strength coaches, which by the way, not a problem. Yeah. Get it. That's a good thing. But then when they'll come to me and then all of a sudden I see that they can't, they don't well certain pieces. I'm like, we've got to fix this. Yeah. And again, like you said, sagittal plane, so much of it. So I like doing a lot of work in the frontal and like being able. Yes. You got the cause X squash. You got your skaters, but like adding like a little bit more plyo into it, adding a more of like a double hop skater and then pushing off stuff like that. Literally yesterday I had the girls doing just a, it was a

jump up, hit the skater, pop onto the box. Whereas like, you know, a lot of people will do like, just like tons of box jumping and stuff like that. Cool. Like I could care less. Cool, you can get your knees to your chest. That's great and you can jump 40 inches. Okay, cool. But that doesn't, but I would love to see you be able to jump and be as tall as possible. Go ahead and do that on a 24 inch box. Can you do that? Probably not. I mean, shoot, it's-

It's hard for me. Yeah. And I have to like think about it. But when you get that, now you're talking about real power to me. Now I'm like, oh, that's, that's good. That's money. Yeah. So we break out the box jumps at the end of the year, because we're trying to avoid all the pound pound, you know, and exactly your cue right there. Hey, guys, I want your head to hit the ceiling. I want you to land with straight legs, you know, now they can't land with straight legs. But you know, at least they're trying to, you know, and so now they, you know, a little bit more of a pop, but no, but

then you can again integrate some type of you know shuffle into that jump or it could be some kind of hurdle yeah like a small hurdle some pop over that boom yeah simple stuff just make it look more athletic as opposed to just make it look cross-fitting you know or yeah or like oh cool like again you get as high as you can that's great but at the same time does that actually play into your actual sport yeah it probably doesn't yeah so that's why I like I like adding


elements to the box jump and then also to making sure that like you don't do box or you don't do jumping the entire practice Yeah, you're already doing enough. Yeah, they're doing tons. So now it's about like fixing technique. Mm-hmm more than anything Yeah, so yeah, and it's funny We totally can't agree with you more on that we don't do a whole heck of a lot of jumping with it But what we do we try to be as quality as possible with it because we know they're literally about to go to practice and jump

we should really track it. I'd be really curious. Yeah, you know, that would be actually that'd be a quite an experiment would be like, how many times do you how many jumps do you do in one practice? Yeah, I know the collegiate programs will have the little jump monitor thing that you know, they can, you know, stick in their shorts and right, you know, it will it will measure and really nice way to put kids coming back from injury like on a jump count. Hey, you have 50 jumps today, use them the best that you can, you know, but then after 50 years, you're not leaving the ground anymore. Which would be so cool. And it's so expensive.

I looked into it. So expensive, so much money. It's so insane. But like, we've had we've had days before where because one thing I love that our club does is that Eric really tries to keep the team small. So playing time, like it's really developing the kids like it's like, we like to win like too well at the same time. The biggest goal here is developing the athlete with the goal of pushing them to college if that's something that they so chose. And not seeing everybody has to go, you know, big 10.

know, if you go to Milliken, that's cool. You know, you go to, you know, UW Platteville, that's cool. Like that's great. You go to Rock Valley. That's cool. Like, that's great. That's fantastic. Extend this experience. Enjoy this. There aren't many kids that play collegiate sports. If you can be one of them and have a great experience, fantastic. What the heck was I talking about? We were talking about jumping. Yes, talking about the jumping in the fact of like limiting...

the amount of jump. That's exactly what we're talking about. And I was bringing it back to winning championships, not hurting, I forgot where this was going. Reggie, what the heck was a weird, where was I going with this? It was gonna be good too. It was gonna be good. Sorry, we can always, we're gonna get, we're getting back there. Now that thought's gone. We're gonna get back there. Completely gone. Especially because of the fact that we are talking about jumping and the fact that the matter is, is that the kids do, they do a lot of it already. So why not for us?


Why don't we just make it to where let's talk efficiency. Came back to me. Cool. So then we'll have kids, we'll have two middles on a team. Yes. We'll have a kid miss a day, night of practice because you know, something goes on, they're sick or something, you know, who knows? We'll have one middle and literally she'll play middle the entire night, two and a half hours of playing middle. Which is crazy. Jump, land, voom, jump, land, voom. How many jumps did you just do in this, you know? 250. Yeah, gosh.

Like no wonder you're tired, no wonder you're sore, no wonder you're, you know, I totally get it. So that's why we try to make sure that we manage that volume. Sorry, that was not that exciting of a point to bring it all the way back. No, you're fine. What, okay, so jumping piece, okay? Not too much, not too little. I'm a big fan of the Goldilocks principle. They like, just right. Exactly, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I think that works for adult training. I think that works for you training. Do you want to jump? Yes. How much?

off season you can do more in season you should do less. You know if any depending on the level of athlete if I was coaching much of collegiate kids, we do we do very little jumping because there's a lot of miles on him right and I know you can jump. Yes at this point game. I know you got that to that level right jumping is not your problem. Yeah, so I don't think that's something that people think about that. We've had a lot of parents come in or coaches come in and be like, you know, I need our kids to jump higher with them on jump program.

and a lot of that jump program ends up being we're a real lift weights and get stronger so we can so we can jump higher. If I ever heard that a hundred times I need my kid to get another three inches. Yeah they probably need to jump less. I'm like no they need to jump less. They actually need to just get stronger and also too they likely need to get more mobile. Yeah which they probably don't have. Yeah and that's yeah I think it's for me again that's the and in the

because everyone's jump higher, jump higher, jump higher, but that doesn't mean like, yeah, you can jump higher, but are you doing it efficiently? Yeah. It's very efficiency with how high you're getting. Yeah. Like, and also too, can you land? Yeah.


Folks, that's the big one. Canyonland, can you actually brace for impact? Yeah. Especially because we were just talking about it. The chords that they play on, come on now. Gosh. They're not the greatest. Okay, three things here I wanna talk about. So I'm gonna say this right now just so I don't forget these things. One, I wanna talk about landing. Two, I wanna talk about strength. Three, I wanna talk about that mobility. So if people are listening to this, they're like, I wanna jump higher. That's the goal. We have the approach touch. I have to write down my college application. You know, da, da. What's?

What's Molly touch? You know, what's your approach? Which I guess I get that thing. And you made a fantastic point earlier. And I tell these kids this all the time. Like you are not high jumpers. A high jumper needs one jump at some magical height in order to place wins, whatever it might be. You guys are jumping, I mean, within a three set match, I mean, a middle's jumping, I don't know, gotta be 7,500 times. I would imagine a hundred times. I bet. Jump land, jump land, jump land, jump land, like, geez. Oh.

mean, that is a tough it's a huge difference between my wife has a high jumper back in the day. Okay, she qualified for state. Five foot four high jumper. That's actually that's really good. It's not bad. She she didn't place it state. She made it down there. You know, I wrote that back in the 90s. Come on, it was good. So if my kids have any athletic ability, it comes from her. Um, so that works out. But it's that's very different. She had said she in her mind, she had seven good jumps in her in a day like a full fledge.

full approach full power. So she wouldn't come in it. You don't come in at four foot one if you're five foot four jumper, you know, you come in at 410, you know, maybe 48 if you need to, you know, real warm, but 410 hit it. Nice, crisp boom. Bar moves up to five foot. Great. Okay, he's getting serious now. Okay, five foot serious. Boom. Oh, crap. We missed it. Didn't, you know, arch hard enough, blah, blah. Okay, well, that was the second jump on now we get five foot again. Boom. Okay, we cleared it this time. Well, now we're up to three jumps.

And if we're trying to clarify, we have four more jumps before things start going south, you know? And you, I mean, literally, you can keep going. They give you three misses, you know, but you can keep going. But it's at some point you're on, volleyball is not that way where there's, you know, another ball, another set, another match. Now you're playing tournaments, you know, multiple games in a day. It's different, because obviously there's that endurancey piece, you know, to volleyball. Not downplaying the approach touch isn't important, but.


again, you said this earlier, if you're touching 10 three once, but then you do nine eight, all the other times after that, that's an issue, right? Think you gotta work on. So if we come to that, if we look at that strength piece, what do you see within volleyball athletes to be very general here? What do volleyball athletes need to do strength wise to jump higher? That's not a broad question at all. That's about as wide spectrum.

Everything. No, I think I do think there's a few things. There's a few things that one, they need to learn how to be able to. And I know this is going to sound crazy because it's going to be like not legs. But here's the thing. One of them is how fast can they get their arms moving? Can they get arm swing? Do they even have the strength and endurance to be able to do this over and over and over? So I think when it comes to jumping, a lot of times I can tell right away who's going to be a good jumper, because I can see how fast you get your arms through.

know. And if it takes you a little bit to kind of gear up and get up. All right. No, it's not gonna I'm like, it's going down. Yeah, it's not gonna be that. But the ones who can get quick here here. Same with basketball. Yeah, same with basketball where the guys who usually your best jumpers also tend to Yes, they kick back far, but they can they get so fast through their hips and all that to where all of a sudden, their arms help bring them up. Yeah, that's so that's

do think that hip stabilization, mobility as a whole, maybe working through cars, controlled articular rotations for those of you who aren't. So I actually think to me, when I have the kids doing a lot of that type of stuff, all of a sudden, as their hips start to be able to go into better ranges of motion, now all of a sudden, you start to see the numbers start to slowly but surely go up because of the fact that now they got more space, they got more, and they can generate more power.

That's the key, especially of course, with anything with jumping, you want to generate power as well. And, and then yeah, power lead right into that. So we'll hear I'm going to interject in plus they're sitting all day. Yes, you know, like we are right now. Yeah, you know, like you did in the two hour trip out here, party, you know, you know, sitting all day in desks now and now, you know, the phones and the Chromebooks and the learning and like, and I have found, and this is just gotten worse as the years have gone on.


our girls usually not have too much of an issue with it. I'm seeing more issues with it. Our boys would be tight because they're adolescent boys and they're growing and stuff like that. Immobility they could care less about. It's like, how big are my arms? Exactly, yeah. That's an important piece to this. Got to understand. Especially basketball, guys, we're not wearing sleeves. I mean, I totally understand. But the girls, I'm amazed with how much of that mobility piece like you're talking is absolutely...

One, it feels fantastic for them, which they're often overworked and exhausted and just that stretching, I don't even call it yoga, but you get in positions and you breathe a little bit. And you get to calm yourself down too. And you feel amazing. Absolutely. So that's been fantastic for them. Power. We gotta have power. Now, I will say, when it comes to sets and rep schemes and stuff like that, you can build the power based off of that. In regards to like,

exercises themselves. I mean, I know like I use, I'll use high pulls, I'll use peg squats, I'll use just regular back squat, but maybe sometimes we'll dial the, we'll dial the weight a little bit. But I also am like, here's how fast we got to get up trap our dad. So those are those are some of like, I don't want to bore you with like literally a list of 25 different things. But those are some of the pieces that I like. I know that while one, especially a lot of these young ladies and gents who are going to be going

college. I try to give them some type of a look at some type of Olympic style lifting. They're probably going to use it. Even just like being able to hold the bar in a front rack position. Yeah, it sucks. Which is an awkward position. It blows. If you're a volleyball player with long limbs, you know, that can be a very awkward. Yeah. And like, do you need to get more narrow? Do you need to get more wide? Do you need to get your lats more involved to get wider and stuff like that? So it's a really awkward position. But

I tend to use, I really try to use front squat more than even back squat because of the fact of just how it loads. Because obviously with like on the back, it's a little bit more spine, but here it's a little bit more anterior core. I actually really like using front squat. And then I've noticed that, and I imagine many have too, when you can front squat well, guess what? Your back squats coming up. And literally everything else will work and it's going to be more powerful. So I like to, I like to load accordingly.


Hey, I can also get, I tend to be able to get more depth with that. So I don't care if we go light, whatever, let's go with range. Let's go with more power in that range and things of that nature. So. You talked about speed. You said speed in there while lifting. A lot of people don't think of speed when lifting. They think sets, reps, weight. You said speed. What does that mean? Talk to people. What is it, why is speed important? Sure. What does that look like? Let's talk about, okay.

I'll try to give you an example. Let's talk about front squat, right? Let's talk about that bar. That bar is set right, it's set on like right around the clavicle, right on. Now, as you are coming down, as you are going into the eccentric movement of your workout, what's already of your exercise, what's gonna happen is, well, that bar is gonna try to bring you down. Now, can you bring that son of a gun up? Yeah, that's what I'm looking for. And that's what I mean by speed is how quickly can you move your body with, now, great, it could be just your body.

It could be with weight, it could be with bands, it could be whatever. But can we move quickly? And can we move in control? And that's what I mean by speed. Because oftentimes, yes, it's like, let's put on as much like, and there are coaches out there that will only try to bombard you with weight. Cool, but then you move slow. Why would I want, literally, particularly invaluable, why the


You got like, you're gonna have to get into like a stance where it's, you got 0.2 seconds to react. That's it. So why would I want to make you any slower? That's silly. So instead I want to see how you move fast with a bar. I want to see you move fast with some bands. I want to see you move fast when you jump, move with your arms, all that type of stuff. So that's what I mean by speed. It's about how quickly can your body move with staying in control, because that's another one too. You can go fast all day.

Look for like, for example, absolutely. I mean, so I use these velocity trackers as well. That's just an easy way for me to be able to give them like, hey, here's how quickly you're moving. Here's the bar speed. What do you use? I use rope one. Yeah. So I literally just attach it down. I'll use it on trap bar down. It just tends to be easy for that. Yeah. Exactly. So I'll use it on that. And by the way, for folks, for those of you who don't know, what happens is you use this like Velcro piece or a metal piece and you attach it to the bar. And then from there.

I can get a live read on how quickly you're moving that bar. Now everybody wants to move a quick, but all of a sudden it's all jerky. I won't count the rep and they're like, but I moved the fast, I moved the fastest I ever did. You didn't get in, you didn't get good range of motion with it. I don't care about the fact that you moved it fast. If you're doing on the way up, cool. And that like, Oh, that means you have no control of what's going on in the posterior anterior core. So front back. And then,

And then on top of it, you're going to hurt yourself. Yeah, that's usually when you get into your situations, when you're on the net and all of a sudden you don't you don't land right. You know, so that's why I am a big proponent of its speed. I don't mind. And again, the weight will. I'm also with like weight, like, yes, there's a percentage piece to it, but I'm also with like intuition and feel, which I do feel like a lot. Like there are coaches who don't go based on feel. It's like it only.

has to be percentage, it's gotta be this, this and that. I'm like, dude, every day is a new day. What are we talking about here? There's gonna be times, and I know you've seen this, where the girls are, you can tell they're firing. And they're ready to cook. And you're like, okay, you know what? We can stay at this percentage, or we can stay at these type of weights, because I can see y'all already around. Go ahead and put them through two weekends in a row, tournaments, where they're playing anywhere between three


six matches. Yeah. Cool. Guess what they're going to do? They're not going to probably move as well. Yeah. So then, cool. We dial it back a little bit. Yeah. And I just think, I think that's a big piece that you have to be, you gotta be, I call myself, I'm like the surfer. I gotta ride the wave. Yeah. Sometimes the waves suck. Sometimes the waves are awesome. Yeah. But the thing is, is that because you can ride that wave, all of a sudden, it translates to the athletes being able to do it.

That's a fantastic metaphor. When I love to because I see strength coaches get into this year and having this part of science pieces really opened our eyes to I'm there's not any movement that I throw shade at like they're all is that still term throwing shade is that I love it. Do kids use that term anymore? I don't know. That's yeah, I like it. It might be 2021. I don't remember. I don't really know. I'm gonna be a little behind here, but

Like there's, like you mentioned front squatting versus back squatting. We have a local high school that will remain nameless where I've, I've talked to their, their strength guy, um, for football. And he said that they only front squat. Reggie, the only front squat, the only front squat. Would you, would you like to know why they only front squat? They only front squat because it's safer when you fail. And so my, my secondary question was why are these young untrained lifters, football players?

failing lifts. He said, well, sometimes when you push it hard, and it's just less, so it's easier to see versus you're under a back squat. And all of a sudden, the bar is going to like crush you down to the ground. So straight me that I keep I. Yeah, that bothers me greatly. Like I you're like, I'm, I'm dialing it back. But hold on. I don't know the right way to word this because it blows my mind. Yeah.

And we were talking earlier, the kids are so resilient that it's like, it's funny. It's like, you don't almost throw anything at them. And as you know, often they'll be, they'll be, they'll be fine. Sometimes they won't be, but often they will be. So there is a difference between a back squat and a front squat. And you dialed in, Hey, the front squat is much more anterior. It's more of a vertical torso, you know, more of a, more of a knee bend than a hip bend, you know, flex infection type thing, back squat, a little bit more hip flexion, a little less neither.


not that one is better than the other. It just depends on the athlete and where they are and what they're trying to do. Speed, we'd want speed in both of those. They're not power lifters. They're not cross fitters. We're not just trying to get the weight up and the weight down. We want to do it efficiently and quickly because we want that quickness piece to transfer to the court. And if it doesn't transfer the court, it doesn't matter anyway. It doesn't matter. It don't matter. Which is funny because I'll see our... I don't know.

coaches or people just get wound up into the numbers. Oh, what do you for? What do you backscott? What do you because we have some kids that are so into it, right? And they awesome, which is awesome. They'll, they'll, you know, they'll lift at the, you know, whatever their local YMCA, you know, they'll, they'll lift in their PE class, you know, but what do they, what do they do in PE class? Well, they're tracking numbers, you know, and they, they max out. This is common place out here. This, this you might find when I tell you this, I can't wait, they max out the first week of school.

So when the kids come, they max out the first week. So these are juniors and seniors, max out the first week. And then they run percentages the rest of the semester off of those initial weights. And then they max out at the end of the day. So every December, there's always a week where we have kids limping into the gym. Oh, I bet. Because they max their trap bar deadlift. And these are phenomenal athletes. These are high level athletes. These are, like your kids, kids going to colleges to play volleyball.

their back is killing them because their PE teacher maxed their deadlift. And in order to get whatever grade, like they have to perform no matter what than what they did back in August. And it's just, oh goodness. Like that's not how this goes. I should not like, Oh my God, there's so many places I can go with this. Yes. It's just, none of that is good. Sorry. I should have brought happier thoughts to this conversation. No, don't worry. We're going to get it back. But it is, but it is one of those things where it's like, yeah.

You gotta be smart. Yeah, you gotta be smart and cool. You can back swap. And also too, let's be honest, a lot of these kids who even if they lift a little bit, they probably need a tutorial on how to actually do this properly. And then let's go ahead and talk about some percentage action. Let's go ahead and talk. Because that's that is the one thing especially I've noticed with the 15s that I work with. I is young ladies and lies. Gents. Yeah, haven't don't have never lifted. Or if they have, it has been.


with correct form and nobody's ever corrected them. So I'm like, okay, well, we got a completely clean slide chip, now let's go ahead and go from here. And then we can build accordingly. But again, you know, and there's times like where the parents will kind of pressure about numbers and things of that nature. And I'm just like, listen, let's get your son or daughter to move efficiently first, let's go there. Then we can start to incorporate the

hey, the numbers are starting to get a little higher, a little lower. But if they can't move well anyways, it doesn't matter. Yeah, it literally won't matter. And then on top of it, of course, the best ability is availability. Yeah. So if they can't play, guess what? They're losing time. And the one thing that I really, really talk to the kids about is like, you know, we got to be available. You got to be available to play. At least give yourself a shot. And on top of it, it's you know, I've and we've talked we talked a little bit earlier about this, but

you know, a lot of these kids, when they work and they do stuff with you and I, the injuries do tend to go, they tend to go down. They tend to go down. Not that they're gonna go away. No, because they'd be cool if they did. Yeah, that would be awesome. But obviously, it's just, it's not gonna happen. But if we can make the kids more injury resistant as opposed, and have them be able to be strong in different planes, in different ranges of motions and things like that, that's what I care more about.

And again, it's a whole longevity piece. I remember, so last year I was working with, with First Alliance, 17 gold, their team won the national champion, championship in USAV. On the, so they were at the tournament in Indy. And I remember talking to a team up in Minnesota, the dad was there and I was watching all teams. I had 17 goals, obviously. So we'll go and say, I'm like, Oh God, so I'm running. But what happened was I was, I looked at gold and one of the gents was like,

Holy smokes, did those kids jump? And I'm like, oh yeah, they're kind of good. And he's like, no, no. He's like, they jumped the same from day one as they do to day four. Now you know. That couldn't be, I couldn't have a better compliment ever in my life than that. And for me, that really gets to the point of, hey, we weren't even doing like big crazy amounts of weighting or anything, that type of stuff.


especially towards like the last like two to three weeks. We started dialing it, tapering it, and things like that. But all the work we did once before translated to on the fourth day, they could still jump with everyone. Actually, they were out jumping everyone because they didn't get tired. That's what it's all about. And again, that plays into the whole availability. That team also, the one injury, two injuries happened and it was rolled ankles because of

feet under the knife. Yeah, which is gonna happen. Yeah, like there's that's gonna happen. I wish we could fix that. I wish we could have like some type of laser that chops your foot off. Cross the line. Or I like saw blades or something. That'd be so intense. Hot lava. I don't know. I don't know what type of coals. The coal. Yeah, there you go. Oh my gosh. But no, but that's but that's the thing. It's like if that's your biggest injury that happens. There's something to

Yeah. And I think and again, like you're with your program, like the girls are moving. They're jumping fast. They're jumping high. And on top of it, they're staying in the game. Yeah, they're being available. Like they're right now. They're all a lot of them are a use. Yeah. I so many things. There's so many good things. So again, we're talking we were talking earlier about approach touching and hey, how high we can get. That's whatever four steps in a jump three steps in a jump. Like did

And now, but if you look at everything that goes into volleyball, you have to jump, land, that lateral movement, you know, front to back movement, arm swing, you know, if you're playing six rotations, you know, playing front row is a thousand times different than playing back row. Like, you know, the ability which to serve, to block, like there's all these different skills that come into play. And then you have to do it playing on these, you know, thin plastic floors day after day after day after day. So obviously then there's an endurance component.

because you want to be able to perform the same day, the same way on day three on day four as what you did on day one, you know, in the same exact way. So there's a strength, endurancey piece to do as well. So we'll, you know, that's why we, that's why we push sleds, you know, that's, that's why there's that little, now we don't overdo it. Right. Because I think a lot of good volleyball endurance comes from playing volleyball. You're gonna get plenty. Yeah, you're gonna get plenty of endurance. Yeah, playing. Yeah. But if that's, if that's all you do, you're, you're


you're missing the boat with things. And I really find our job to be like, hey, where's the hole in your game? What's the low hanging fruit? We've had kids be super strong, but like you said, not quick. So they're missing the speed component, but they're strong as a knock. So like, those are the kids that love lifting the heavy weight that we have to take away the heavy weight from, like quick, go fast, and they can't do it, which I relate to because I don't go quick anymore. It's very hard for Adam to go quick.

Gravity is the son of a gun when you hit your 40s. It's a thing. But the strength piece is good. Or we have kids that are quick, but they're not, they're weak. So those are the kids that you do need to load up. Hey, let's get heavy. Now, heavy within reason, not heavy with a rounded back and collapsed knees. That's not heavy. Good heavy. And failing. Yes, and failing. But as long as it's a front squat, we're okay. No problem. We can just dump it forward. It's great.

Your buddies will help pick up the weight and re-rack it. Gosh, it's my only issue. There's no need to fail lift. Never a reason to fail lift. I don't care if you're an adult, you're a kid, don't be failing lifts, unless you're a power lifter. If you're a power lifter, just have spotters. And I hope you compete well. Good luck. That's all. Everybody else, don't miss. There's too much risk. Way too much risk. But I think that's the part of volleyball where there's so many different components to what makes.

this elite volleyball athlete. And it's not just jumping high. It's again, it's everything that we just listed off, you know, and it's, and you kind of have to train all those things. Oh yeah, absolutely. But if you're weak, if you know you're weak at something, sometimes it takes a coach to point that out too, you know, where you just keep doing the things that you love to do. Of course. You know, our outsides will just keep swinging because they love swinging.

But all of a sudden they rotate to the back row and it's. And you see them moving. You're like, you got cement in your shoes. What's going on? Yes. They're like, I jump. They pass the ball seven courts over. And they're like, oh, you have no body control. You're kind of a liability at this point, Grace. We got to. We got to get it right. We got to get it right, baby. We got to figure this out. Gosh. I don't know where I was going with that. But no, I think. There's a lot that goes into it, is my point. Yeah. Well, and that's true, though, because of the fact that, like you said, there's a whole plio endurance aspect to it, which is, again.


cool, you can jump five times high, but can you do it? Can you jump solid 50? Yeah. And then now times that by another three, because that's okay, cool. And one day you've jumped 150, 200 times, boom. Now go ahead and do that again, three more days. Yeah. Or can you do even one more day without your legs all of a sudden giving out on you and stuff like that. There's like that whole aspect to it. And I do feel as though oftentimes it may not be trained. Yeah.

And I've seen it. I've seen it. I see it with like different teams where I'm like, hmm, although already tired in state two. Yeah. It's gonna be tough sliding because these girls are about to highlight them. Yeah. And that's and there is something to that. And I do think that's one of the big pieces that gets ignored or push it aside is the ability to jump or just pilot as a whole. Yeah. Because I won't say it's just strictly jumping. But I would say it's the pilot aspect.

but being able to do it for an endurance piece. Because again, anybody can, like even you and I, we can jump high once or twice. Can we? I'd like to think we can. Once. I got, okay, I got three, and then that's it. But the thing is, can we be pretty dead gone consistent 12 times? Can we do it 30 times? You know, stuff like that. So, and then again, like you said, the volleyball play will help, but they're...

is something to being able to make sure muscularly and even physiologically you can do that. Yeah. So we were, before we came in here, giving ready the tour of the building here, we went out and watched little Jade out there working some passing. Talked to Courtney. Jade's young, younger, I think 12 years old. Okay. Just growing up within this, a lot of time ahead of her. Jade is currently playing multiple sports. Yes.

volleyball, I think is her main one, but also does basketball that she enjoys and softball in the fall here. We were both commenting on how we thought that was a really good thing because Jade's growing right now. Her dad is a very tall guy. And so she's kind of like a baby deer right now. Kind of baby giraffe and just walking and moving and it looks a little this and that's okay. Yeah, because she's growing. And eventually she'll stop eventually. Yes. Not yet. It has some years. Yes.


But we're both commenting your thoughts on multi-sport athletes and how it brings everything together from the athletic performance side. Not to put words in your mouth, but what are your thoughts? All I'm going to say is this, and I'm going to look in the camera when I say this. Okay. Do not specialize in one sport too young. You can't, you can't because your body, especially, especially as you're growing.

You need to be able to work it in all different types of areas. Also, too, look at when you were growing up, how many you probably played almost everything. I know I did. Yeah. And the thing was, is that built into the whole aspect of overall athleticism. Yeah. And the thing that I do see a lot of now is a specialization way too early. Then all of a sudden you get overuse injuries in those sports way too early. You should not be dealing with tendonitis as a sixth grader.

That's crazy. Like that does that makes zero sense. That is like something, okay, maybe when you're in college, you might deal with it when you're post 30, there might be with it a little bit. But the thing is, is like, kids should not be having tendonitis or having knee issues like serious knee issues shouldn't be happening. And it's because if you're if you're doing the same thing over and over and over again, without any change in your planes or in your range of motion, it's

It's so detrimental for the overall athletic ability of that particular child. And I just, I, and I tell, and even like, I have a parent right now who was like, you know what, we're gonna take this summer off because she put, now mind you, she plays volleyball. She's also a equestrian. And I know that's fancy. And also plays softball. So I'm like, cool, go for it. And again, I would rather see that.

And I know like, you know, people, you know, people got paid their bills and then straight coaches got to pay their bills and stuff like that. But the thing is, is that I know in the long run, that's going to be way more beneficial for her as a whole because it's also not going to take a beating on the same body parts at all times. Yeah. So I'm a, I'm a big proponent. If anybody's like, shoot, if you can do it until you're, I know obviously with like recruiting and things like that, but if you could do it up until like you're like a junior in high school, that would be awesome.


Yeah. And then again, at that point, if you're like, look, there's one that I really got to shoot for. Yeah. For it. Look at like JJ, what? Yeah. Some of your top pro athletes, guess what they did? They didn't play just one sport. They played. If you were a football player, guess what? You're probably going to play basketball in the winter. And then I guess when in the spring summer, you might do track or you can play baseball or you can play soccer or whatever it is. But you're doing multiple things and also learning multiple skill sets. So in that way, all of a sudden that turns into

And that does translate as an athlete as a whole. Yeah. I think there's a cool mental break from it too. Absolutely. Where it's not the same sport with the same drills, the same practice, and the same building, with the same lighting, with the same balls, with the same out of bound, with the same people. It's different. It's a different simulation for the mind piece. Because one of my biggest frustrations is watching kids get burned out. Like that, I feel so. That's crazy. Oh, I hate it. That's crazy. My heart breaks. Well, and it's tough because it's like you're burning out as a.

as a junior high kid. Yeah. What happened? Yeah. What happened along the way that made you burn out that quickly? I mean, every sport that I played, shoot, I wish I was still playing. Yeah. Let's be honest. But I played every sport, and I know I was fortunate that my mom was really very much so, do whatever you want on that front. She's like, do I want you to be active? Yes. But do whatever sport you want. If you're cool with it, cool. When you are done, know you're not going to quit mid-season. You're going to go ahead and end the season.

And then you can say, you know what, it's not for me. Yeah, it's fine. That's fine. But again, it's just one of those things where I, and I see it because I get, and I get it. You want your son or daughter to excel in that specific skillset as quickly as they can. Yeah. But it's actually to their detriment. Yeah. Oftentimes. Yeah. And then, and you probably see it on the court as well, where all of a sudden, usually the kids who have played multiple sports, guess what? They usually tend to be some of the best athletes out there.

Also, one of the things I will say is for sure, when it comes to young ladies, at least from what I've seen, I have like a top five of the athletes that I've ever worked with. Guess what the common denominator is? All five of them played multiple sports, all of them were gymnasts. Just because you gotta learn how to control your body at that point. So I'm not saying you have to make your kid a gymnast, but what I am saying is that there's something to that. And especially with gymnastics where it's body control and it is...


every aspect, every tendon, ligament, and muscle in your body has to work. Yeah, altogether. So I do, like I said, the whole aspect of playing multiple sports big time. Yeah, big time, big time. Well, we just had and I think it should air before this podcast, but you know, Claire Anwell from Central Michigan on the podcast, she she's had a chunk of different sports kind of growing up. But like her big one was she did gymnastics from, oh gosh, age six to 14 type thing. And

know and then it got to the point where gymnastics can very competitive and time consuming. Absolutely. Volleyball very competitive and time consuming. So come wherever that 14 year, you know, eighth grade freshman year, she kind of had to make a choice. But she had this big, you know, training base of everything that is gymnastics, the flexibility, the strength, the isometric strength, the, you know, I get moving in different planes flipping like she's six one and can do a like back

handstand walkover. Is that a thing? Yeah, and she could probably she probably actually could still do a tuck. Yeah, she wanted to. If she wanted to. I don't know if she wants. I don't know. But that's so crazy. No, that's crazy to be there. To think you're 6'1". You can do that. And you want to know why? Because you had that base in the beginning. Yeah. And on top again, it's the whole aspect of being an athlete. Well, and the thing that really impresses me about her, she's still hungry for the sport of volleyball where you know, I know some of our college kids get

get tired and they get burnt out and they come home for break, you know, and I would love to see them in here, but a lot of them don't want to come here and they just want to, they want to sleep, they want to rest, they want to take this time off. She's still hungry to continue to get better, which I just, I really, really appreciate. Which is awesome. Yeah. And it doesn't always happen. So I think that's, I'm a big Claire fan. We were talking earlier too with my oldest son playing soccer. He played fall soccer, played spring soccer,


he got quite a bit better in soccer from the fall to the spring. I'm not a soccer coach. But the biggest thing that he did, you know, through that is that he got so much more physical. And it wasn't soccer that did it to him. It was wrestling that did it to him where he's okay, because he's able to, you know, grab somebody in a double leg, pick them up and, you know, toss them. And now all of a sudden, you get them on the soccer field and somebody gives him a little bit of a form and he can hold his ground.

again, he's a lane, so we're not huge people. But like, that's where I think, and he felt good about that, and I told you this too, he got called for a couple penalties that way, pushing kids a little bit too hard to get in that court. But you know, what can you do? And he didn't, oh, I think some kids were just floppers.

Yeah. Oh, yeah, absolutely. I mean, especially in soccer. Oh my gosh. There's times there are times but I'll be honest, I've had soccer players who are like they're they are tanks. Yeah, that the ones that I've worked with that are the tanks. It's awesome. I'm amazed how physical and now just watching more soccer since my kids have gotten into it and just you know, we'll be out of practice and stuff like that and we'll see we'll see the older kids play. And you know, we have some soccer athletes, but it's hard to get to all the games of different things that we're going on. I'm amazed with in

on the boys and the girl side, but specifically amazed on the girls side how physical it is. Like it is. Holy cow. I mean, they're like, two degrees away from helmets and shoulder pads. I mean, they, they are getting forearm check. Yeah. Shoulder check. The slide tackling is ruthless. I remember fifth grade, I got slide tackled and I punched a kid in the face. I said, that was it.

That's it for soccer. No more soccer at that point. That's what turned. That was it. I said, I mean, I know I'm going to hurt somebody in this sport. So I said, I can't play soccer. But nobody was but no, but women's soccer it is. Yeah. It's a battle. Yeah, you're gonna battle. Yeah. And I love it. And it makes sense why that injury piece has gone up so high within, you know, the girls with soccer and stuff like that. They see L is a big, big deal. Um, Reggie, what do we not talked about? What would you have wished that I have asked you?


that I have not asked you yet. I think a big one, okay, and I'll just say this straight, but I think for a lot of athletes, having somebody around who can be, not saying, I won't even say cheerleader, but just a positive piece. Being able, when you have a crap day, to just be like, hey, listen, okay, you had a crap day. That's fine, that's the past, it's already done. And to be able to have so much.

sports. It's so much of life, let's be honest too, is just mindset. It really is. And I think that is one of the pieces that probably gets least talked about, but is probably right up there, is probably the most important. Because if you're not mentally here, you can be... Shoot, I remember. Like, I mean, for goodness sakes, we'll work out. And there's days I'm not mentally there.

I want to get out of here. Yeah. I don't want to work out every time. Like I think that's, and I think that's a lot of people like, well, you're, you do strength and conditioning or you, you personal trainer. And like, I'm like, that doesn't mean I want to do this every day. Like that happens. I do have a life and I also, I go through like, go through life. You know, I don't want to work out all the time, but I really do think that if you can instill a confidence in whomever you're working with, that's so huge. And that's a, that's a

That's today. That's tomorrow. That's forever. Yeah. And that's one of the things like when I tell the ladies, well, sorry, I think it was like 2021. We were talking about I was like, Hey, ladies, it's strong girl summer. Strong girls like, you know, hot girl summer. I say, hot girl summer. Get that out of here. We're going strong girl summer. And really melding that into a like a mindset and a lifestyle. And that has really stuck. It's been awesome to see the transformation of some of the

mostly all of them, where they're just like, yo, I wanna be strong, like I care about being strong. I love being strong. That's awesome. And that's just, again, so much of this comes down to what's upstairs and how you, and also understanding how to, not every kid's the same. You have to be, you gotta, again, this is surfing, again. There's different waves. Sometimes the kids are gonna be really high, sometimes they're gonna be low, but guess what? You still gotta ride that wave. Don't matter.


And that's something that I feel like is so valuable and often highly underrated, but it's one of the most important pieces, if not the most important. I've tried to get better with this as a parent. Because now my kids are getting a little bit older, 11 and 8, trying not to be the psycho dad that like, you know, just, I want to play the game, enjoy the game, you know, obviously we're talking about something on the right home.

But it's not, hey, what the heck were you thinking on the second quarter of the blah blah. Like, even though you could, even though it might be a discussion worthy point, like if it's not like, I'll make sure that he understands what he did and the coach communicated and blah blah. But I also don't want to be looked at as the coach. Like I want the coach to be viewed as the coach, dad as the parent. But we had a couple episodes ago, Chad McGeehee, who's the director of meditation for the University of Wisconsin. Oh cool.

on the podcast. It's really good episode, by the way, from the mental side of things. Absolutely. His line is he's like the just with parents and he's got a son who's eight, nine, something like that. His line is I love watching you play. Like that's just, it's a very, you can't argue with that statement. Like you can't, you know, da da. Man, you know, I just I really like watching you play. It's not like you're doing it for dad, doing it for mom, doing it for you, because you obviously want the kid to do it for themselves.

you know, I'm here to support you. But it's, you know, it's not like, you know, you don't work harder. This is I can't believe you let that you know, you know, but I that supportive piece that you're talking about earlier, like to know that, you know, the coach is going to get mad at you. It's gonna happen. Your strength coach is gonna get mad at you. It's gonna happen. Your teammates are gonna get mad at you. It's gonna happen. It's gonna happen.

And there's good with that too. Like there's, there'll be times where they think that you're walking on water and you're amazing and all those things too. Sometimes you need a kick in the can. But if you have that stable presence, and I swear I think parents are amazing, you know, that know that, you know, mom and dad are gonna love you, no, regardless of, you know, as long as you put in all the effort as you possibly can and just give all you got and, you know, enjoy, you know, hey, I love watching you play. I think that's a big role for parents. It's really important.


And I've been so impressed with so many of our parents that will, I mean, so many of them are down in Florida right now. Absolutely flying, driving, you know, give them down to a or a using like it's, it's even a lot. Oh my gosh. He's look, it is an expensive vacation. You know, it's grueling. Yeah, not even just obviously yesterday, the financial side of it, but just to be like, shoot, I think about like my mom and my dad, like being at stuff and just like being there, being there, being there. I like particularly my mom.

man, you really came to everything. Why? She'd be like, well, there's gonna be a time I'm not gonna see you. It's gonna come down to that. And that's where like, I was like, and now as I've gotten older, I get it. Yeah, especially because I try to get like, now granted, I can't get to every event that the athletes I work with that are in. But I get to enough. Yeah. And the cool part is, is that they know I care. Yeah. And they see it. Because I'm there. Yeah. And that

And that also, and as you know, that plays into buying. Cause now they're gonna be like, it's not like you're doing it for me. I'm not saying all that. But what I will say is that you'll be like, no, he actually cares. So like when he's talking about this stuff, he's coming from a place of actually, one, understanding what's going on, and then two, he cares about what's going on. Yeah, period. So that, I think that's so big. And of course, as you get, you know, business gets bigger and stuff like that, it's a little bit tougher. But I will say right now, while I'm not huge,

It's also, but I'm busy. Yeah. So, but I try, I really try to make an effort that even like the, the young ladies and gents that are in college and then next thing you know, they're like, hey, can you come out to da da? I'll be like, listen, give me like three dates that you have an option to. For example, show me your schedule. Right. Like for example, like I have, I have two young ladies I've worked with that are going to Akron. Okay. And they're going to be playing Northern. Okay. In October, if I'm not mistaken. I'm going to go there. Yeah. I'm going to see them.

Yeah, you know, it's not bad because well, and that's the thing is like, I can get there. Yeah. Now, Brian, if you're like, Oh, we're playing the West Coast. Okay, well, no. But again, even still, I still care about what you do. And you're a person at the end of the day as well. So I care about you as the person. Yeah, you're not Yes, you're an athlete. But there's more to you. We're all more than athletes. Yes. No. And that's I think that's a big one. Yeah.

OAK PERFORMANCE (01:00:55.05)

Reggie, that's a great place to end right there. I think you nailed that beautifully. Hey, you know what? I've been around, you know? Yeah. I've been around. Yeah, you got some years still. Reggie, people wanna follow you, see all the great work that you're doing, because you have quite the presence on the social media. Oh boy, I'm a wild boy on social media. You are, and let's be clear, for everybody watching the Reels, the Instagrams, you're a one-take guy. I'm one-take champ. That's all you do. That's it.

That's it. It's whatever's getting shot out there. It's, that's it. Yeah. You don't do it. Redo it. Do it again. How's my lighting? Don't care. Man. Oh, it's dark. Did my biceps look big enough in that? They'll never look big enough. Because they'll never get bigger. They're never getting any bigger than probably what they are right now. But no, but well, for real, where do they find you? TCA performance, TCA performance, TCA, the complete athlete. So on Instagram, it's TCA performance. Then on YouTube.

Tick tock. Yes. I'm on tick tock. Look at you. Yes. TCA performance. Okay. Everything's pretty much everything is TCA performance. Okay. Then even like my website, I like the website. RE2G's. You know what I'm saying? So but honestly, and I really do try to keep it. I try to be concise. I try to be entertaining. But the front the biggest piece is I try to be educational. Yeah. And also educational where you're not bored to tears. Yeah.

that's what I really try to do. And also, let's be honest, I'll showcase the athletes as they do well. Now, grad, they know my rule is like, if this drill looks a little sloppy, you guys will be like, you ain't going up. So now they're like, they're like, wait a second. Oh, you're going to start filming? You're going to start filming this? I'm like, yeah, so make sure it's good. Yeah, that's it. So don't put up garbage. I can't put up garbage. I will never put up something that's going to make you look bad. Or me. No, but honestly, TCA performance, TCA.

Everything. There we go. Awesome. Ladies and gentlemen, Roll with Reg. TCA, Roll with the Reg. Reggie Vantries. Boom, bang, pow. Listeners, thanks for listening. We'll catch you on the next one. Awesome.

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